Dan Update and Next hand
First, Dan accepted the job out here in Phoenix, so he'll be moving here in abotu two months, kick ass! He'll be back November first for training, so we'll meet up then for more fun..
Ok, now for my donk hand of the day.
***** Hand History for Game 13383361 *****
0.10/0.20 Texas Hold'em (Split Limit) - Sun Oct 9 20:28:24 GMT 2005
Table Shiner (10 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: king_king ($4.25)
Seat 2: beejay ($1.44)
Seat 3: Mini ($1.20)
Seat 4: LaughingPenguin ($2.65)
Seat 5: Steeevee ($26.52)
Seat 7: Ray_Powers ($15.22)
Seat 8: adpres ($3.60)
Seat 9: ottoto ($2.85)
Seat 10: LUCASSY ($6.29)
Mini : Small Blind ($0.05)
LaughingPenguin : Big Blind ($0.10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Ray_Powers [ Td Ac ]
Steeevee : Call ($0.10)
Ray_Powers : Call ($0.10)
-- Slightly suspect calling here in early position, but the game is pretty lose, so it seems ok.
adpres : Fold
ottoto : Fold
LUCASSY : Call ($0.10)
king_king : Call ($0.10)
beejay : Raise ($0.20)
Mini : Call ($0.15)
LaughingPenguin : Call ($0.10)
Steeevee : Call ($0.10)
Ray_Powers : Call ($0.10)
--- Calling this though was ludicrous. What exactly did I think I was beating here?
LUCASSY : Call ($0.10)
king_king : Call ($0.10)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h 2c 8s ]
Mini : Check
LaughingPenguin : Check
Steeevee : Fold
--- Hehehehehehehe.
Ray_Powers : Check
--- I don't know if I should have bet here or not since the board likely missed everyone. Thoughts?
LUCASSY : Check
king_king : Check
beejay : Bet ($0.10)
Mini : Call ($0.10)
LaughingPenguin : Call ($0.10)
Ray_Powers : Fold
--- I think this was right though since I did check, as I was likely drawing to 3 outs (the tens).
LUCASSY : Call ($0.10)
king_king : Fold
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2s ]
Mini : Check
LaughingPenguin : Check
LUCASSY : Bet ($0.20)
beejay : Call ($0.20)
Mini : Call ($0.20)
LaughingPenguin : Fold
** Dealing River ** : [ Kd ]
Mini : Check
LUCASSY : Bet ($0.20)
beejay : Call ($0.20)
Mini : Fold
** Summary **
Main Pot: $2.70 | Rake: $0.10
Board: [ 9h 2c 8s 2s Kd ]
king_king lost $0.20
beejay lost $0.70 [ 8h 6d ] [ two pairs, eights and twos -- 8s 8h 2s
2c Kd ]
Mini lost $0.50
LaughingPenguin lost $0.30
Steeevee lost $0.20
Ray_Powers lost $0.20
adpres didn't bet
ottoto didn't bet
LUCASSY bet $0.70, collected $2.70, net +$2 [ 2d As ] [ three of a
kind, twos -- 2s 2d 2c As Kd ]
LUCASSY wins $2.70 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos
--- Seriously, how much softer can these games be?
Ok, now for my donk hand of the day.
***** Hand History for Game 13383361 *****
0.10/0.20 Texas Hold'em (Split Limit) - Sun Oct 9 20:28:24 GMT 2005
Table Shiner (10 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: king_king ($4.25)
Seat 2: beejay ($1.44)
Seat 3: Mini ($1.20)
Seat 4: LaughingPenguin ($2.65)
Seat 5: Steeevee ($26.52)
Seat 7: Ray_Powers ($15.22)
Seat 8: adpres ($3.60)
Seat 9: ottoto ($2.85)
Seat 10: LUCASSY ($6.29)
Mini : Small Blind ($0.05)
LaughingPenguin : Big Blind ($0.10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Ray_Powers [ Td Ac ]
Steeevee : Call ($0.10)
Ray_Powers : Call ($0.10)
-- Slightly suspect calling here in early position, but the game is pretty lose, so it seems ok.
adpres : Fold
ottoto : Fold
LUCASSY : Call ($0.10)
king_king : Call ($0.10)
beejay : Raise ($0.20)
Mini : Call ($0.15)
LaughingPenguin : Call ($0.10)
Steeevee : Call ($0.10)
Ray_Powers : Call ($0.10)
--- Calling this though was ludicrous. What exactly did I think I was beating here?
LUCASSY : Call ($0.10)
king_king : Call ($0.10)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h 2c 8s ]
Mini : Check
LaughingPenguin : Check
Steeevee : Fold
--- Hehehehehehehe.
Ray_Powers : Check
--- I don't know if I should have bet here or not since the board likely missed everyone. Thoughts?
LUCASSY : Check
king_king : Check
beejay : Bet ($0.10)
Mini : Call ($0.10)
LaughingPenguin : Call ($0.10)
Ray_Powers : Fold
--- I think this was right though since I did check, as I was likely drawing to 3 outs (the tens).
LUCASSY : Call ($0.10)
king_king : Fold
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2s ]
Mini : Check
LaughingPenguin : Check
LUCASSY : Bet ($0.20)
beejay : Call ($0.20)
Mini : Call ($0.20)
LaughingPenguin : Fold
** Dealing River ** : [ Kd ]
Mini : Check
LUCASSY : Bet ($0.20)
beejay : Call ($0.20)
Mini : Fold
** Summary **
Main Pot: $2.70 | Rake: $0.10
Board: [ 9h 2c 8s 2s Kd ]
king_king lost $0.20
beejay lost $0.70 [ 8h 6d ] [ two pairs, eights and twos -- 8s 8h 2s
2c Kd ]
Mini lost $0.50
LaughingPenguin lost $0.30
Steeevee lost $0.20
Ray_Powers lost $0.20
adpres didn't bet
ottoto didn't bet
LUCASSY bet $0.70, collected $2.70, net +$2 [ 2d As ] [ three of a
kind, twos -- 2s 2d 2c As Kd ]
LUCASSY wins $2.70 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos
--- Seriously, how much softer can these games be?
posted by Ray | 7:42 AM
4 Comments:
What boggles my mind is you questioning calling the A/10 off and yet beating yourself up because you didn't raise J/10 suited.
boggles...
Heck yeah. The jt suited hand was on a board that was incredibly good for me draw wise. I was four to the flush and had two overs which meant that I had two shots at 15 outs. The AT board was not coordinated for me at all (although likely for noone else either except like jt ironically) putting me down to 6 outs, of which I felt three of them were dead (my ace was outkicked). Why does this boggle the mind?
Because I was talking preflop.
You didn't agonize as much about calling the J/10 suited as you did the A/10off
Oh yeah,
That's eays. What do you expect with A/10 unsuited. You either want to win when the board misses everyone with your ace high, or you want the board to hit your ace and the kicker to be high enough to take down the pot. At low limits, thats unlikely, because too many people are in the pot.
J10 suited however, plays fantastic in a multiway pot, giving you best odds for a flush a straight, and its often a "hidden" hand, in that people don't expect you to have it. Even better, often your straight posibilites include a king and/or queen, meaning that someone hits and over pair to your straight and will keep betting for you.
THAT's why I like j/10suited over a/10 unsuited in that position.
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